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it takes me several days to go through the book, "wild swans", not too many chinese readers know about it, neither did I, until I found it from a public library. the author's name is zhang rong. she was the daughter of a high rank official at that time. it is a good book, but I don't have too much time to read it in detail.
摘录几个精彩的描述.

表明了她的外公的仁慈. 她外公是老中医. 好的医生都是菩萨心肠的.
1. Dr.Xia had got on very well with everybody. including my father. the two man would talk together for hours. they shared many ethical values, bjut whereas my father's were dressed in the garb of an ideology, Dr.Xia's rested on a humanitarian foundation.  once dr.xia said to my father:" I think the communists have done many good things, but you have killed too many people. people should not have been kill." "like who?" my father asked. "those masters in the society of reason."....

讲述百花齐放的背景.
2.in this talk, Mao said the rightists had gone on a rampage attacking the communist party and china's socialist system. he said these rightists made up between 1 to 10 percent of all intellectuals-and that must be smashed.  make it simple, 5%. to meet it, my mother was expected to find over hundred rightest to the organization under her....enticing the snake out of its haunt in order to cut off its head

讲述发动文革的背景.
3.Mao's vague battle calls threw the population and the majority of party officials into profound confusion. few knew what he was driving at. or who exactly were the enemies this time. my father and mother, like other senior party people, could see that mao had decide to punish some officials. but they had no idea who these would be. it could well be themselves. apprehension and bewilderment overwhelmed them.

讲述她父亲的正直和勇敢.(批斗大会上)
4.As the hysterical crowd screamed that he was anti-cultural revolution, he shouted angrily, "what kind of cultural revolution is this? there is nothing 'cultural' about it! there is only brutality!"

他父亲被逼疯了.
5.I went back to see my father. the apartment was in a dreadful state: the windows were broken, and therewere bits of burned furniture and clothing all over the floor. my father seemed indifferent to whether i was there or not; he just paced incessantly around and around. at night i lockeded my bedroom door, ....

描写她自己的军训. 透露出女性特有的天真.
6.our second test was shooting..... when my name was called and i lay on the ground, gazing at the target through the gunsight, i saw complete blackness. no target, no ground, nothing. i was trembling so much my whold body felt powerless. the order to fire sounded faint, as though it was floating from a great distance through clouds.

毕业实习. 也很有趣, 表现当时那男女间单纯的社会风气.
6. when the black sailors arrived, our teachers gently warned the women students to watch out:"they are less developed and haven't learned to control their instincts, so they are given to displaying their feelings whenever they like:  touching, embracing, even kissing." ......one woman in the last group had burst out screaming in the middle of a conversation when a gambian sailor had tried to hug her. she thought she was going to be raped, in middle of the crowd...

出国前的准备. 让我看得几乎流泪.
7.the news that i was to go to britain reached me through excited friends in the department before the authorities told me. people who barely knew me felt hugely pleased for me, and i received manyletters and telegrams of congratulations. celebration parties were thrown, and many tear of joy were shed.....
first i had to go to beijing for a spcial training course for people going abroad. followed by a month traveling around china. the point was to impress us with the beauty of the motherland so we would not contemplate defecting...and we were given a clothing allowance. we had to look smart for the foreigners.

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看完后很久才能平静. 中华民族多灾多难. 好人很多, 否则作者她出不了国. 坏人也很多, 否则她父亲死不了.
中国人民过了30年好日子, 现在问题又来了, 日本来捣乱了. 18大还能如期开吗? 接班会顺利吗? 中国有着社会动乱的暴民基础. 将来发生反汗奸,反贪官的社会动乱不是完全没有可能. 我这个温饱刚够的人, 能做的不多, 能管好自己就不错了.

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发表于 2012-9-29 11:58 |只看该作者
在看评论的时候, 发现还有一本书很受好评, 就是"Life and death in shanghai", written by Nien Cheng. I have seen the chinese version(part of) before, so I think, why not see the english version too.
It is really a good book. The author has better english skill than the previous one(wild swans). But it is also too long, I see it in 3 days and have to return it.
<上海生与死>的作者写的比较深刻, 或者说, 对文革的痛恨比前个作者更深. 前个作者她出生高干子弟, 受了共产党的苦, 但也得到过好处. 她的父亲虽然被逼死了, 但那是积劳成疾, 不算直接的被害. 她还有很多亲戚在中国, 投鼠忌器, 说话不会太绝.
NIEN CHENG就不同了, 老公女儿都死了, 亲戚在美国, 她就写得严厉些. 当然, 两本都是禁书. 我觉得应该放开, 因为这是人类社会的极大灾难, 我们要好好学习反省, 避免再次发生. 不要以为不可能, 重庆模式, 西安和青岛的砸车, 就有点苗头.

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我觉得life and death, the best part is the end.
....in spite of all that had happened, i was sad to leave china never return. all chinese have this feeling of attachment to our native country. ...
(我也有点担心)
A light rain was falling by the time we reached the wharf. in spite of comrade ho's official pass, the ladies were not allowed to go into the waiting room for passengers. i said goodbye to them in the rain and they returned to the bus. they wished me a pleasant trip and a happy  reunion with my sisters, but none of them mentioned anything about my coming back. I think they knew that i was unlikely to return to the city which held for me such tragic memories.
the ship had lifted anchor and was sailing upstream in order to turn around. through the misty curtain of rain, i caught a glimpse of the shell building and the window of my old office.already the past was assuming an unreal dreamlike quality. the ship was gathering speed, sailing down the remaining stretch of the huang-pu river. when we reached the yangtze estuary, the storm was over and rays of sunshine were filtering through the thinning cloud.
many times in my life i had sailed from shanghai to go abroad, standing just as i did now on the deck of a ship. with the wind whipping my hair while i watched the coastline of china receding. brough meiping back from hongkong in april 1949, in response to my husband's request,. the shocking tragedy of her death, i believed, was a direct consequence of our fatal decision to stay in our own country at that crucial moment of history. therefore i felt guilty for being the one who was alive. i wished it was meiping standing on the deck of this ship, going away to make a new life for herself. .....god knows how hard i had tried to remain true to my country, but i had failed utterly through no fault of my own....

当然了, 这是几十年前的故事了. 现在嘛, 出了国也不能乱说话的. 花个几百万就能全球追杀了.

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发表于 2012-11-3 10:54 |只看该作者
18大要来了, 政治斗争热闹得很. 反正这里的文章也没什么人看, 我写点时事方面的东西关系不大吧.
海外的移民大多数对中国的政治不感兴趣, 我的时事方面的内容主要从WENXUECITY.COM看来的. 那地方的帖子, 90%都是些极左份子为薄喊冤, 咒骂温贪污等.
我就奇怪了, 这文革我没经历过, 但书是看了不少, 简直是场恶梦, 怎么那么多人想时光倒流呢? 温家宝还算很不错的了, 被左派骂得一钱不值.
NY TIMES 为什么登出温贪污的新闻呢? 我算看透白人的虚伪了. 天天说中国独裁, 等中国出了个愿意政治改革的领导, 就企图借左派把他搞倒. 对待瓜瓜就好得不得了. 一堆奖学金和名校录取.
哎, 我该去哪里站队呢?

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四个青年在郑州撕了四张伟大领袖毛主席的画像。这还了得!想出名想疯了?先是撕西哈努克的像,又来撕西哈努克的伟大朋友的像,你们是不是在撕画像的道路上走得太远了!于是,这四位就被请去喝茶,到现在为止,结果尚不知晓。
  不知道毛主席的嫡亲儿子们是怎么想的,但是我们确乎未见韩德强先生召开招待会,拿出打那个“汉奸”老人的勇气,打着飞机去扇这四个青年的耳光!
  面对如此非常事件,估计,我们的伟大领袖的精神继承人韩德强教授一定如丧考妣,痛心疾首,顿足捶胸,四肢冰凉,几次昏死,非如此,不能表达对这位超越神的极品大神的热爱之情。
  怎么办呢?不诛不足以平民愤,然后,诛他有没有法律依据呢?有人指出《中华人民共和国宪法》提到了毛泽东主席的名字。但是,《中华人民共和国宪法》没有规定,对毛不许批评,对毛的画像不许撕坏呀?如果依照他们的逻辑,提了他的名字,那就神圣不可侵犯了!好吧!我们依照这个逻辑推断一下,中国到底有多少人曾经犯了他们说的侮辱领袖的罪!
  1976年,韩德强宁愿为之死的文革结束了!他没有死,他的领袖终于无法抵抗自然规律,终于不能胜天,死了。于是,第二年的春天,全国人民对自己的房间进行了全面的清理!什么领袖画像,什么毛选,什么语录,什么塑像,什么单行本,什么合订本,统统送到收破烂的那里去。如果撕掉毛主席的像是违法了,那么当时中国有八九亿人口,是不是都违法了呢?是不是要翻翻旧账,把他们都请到公安局说清楚呢?
  那么撕毛泽东的画像是不是违法犯罪行为?找找刑法,没有发现中国有这样的罪名!如果某孙子以为这种行为是对他爷爷的侮辱,他个人可以提起诉讼,如果他不能提出诉讼,那么警察同志们呀,你们急什么呢?难道你们以为你们也是他老人家的孙子么?你们觉得你们配吗?
  韩教授扇一个被他称为汉奸的老人两个耳光,未见有警察去找他问话,我以为这是正确的,因为被害人没有主动提出诉讼,没有诉讼的主体,如何去处罚他呢?韩教授应该感谢那老人对他的宽容才对!
  同理,四个青年撕了毛的画像,毛的孙子没有任何异议,也未提出诉讼,法院也未审判,请问,警察叔叔们,你们凭着什么法律来限制他们的自由呢?你们凭什么找人问话呢?难道你们依据是《中华人民共和国刑法》之二百五十章三十八款的规定么?难道你们依据的是《中华人民共和国保护伟大领袖画像法》第二二二章的规定吗?
  法无明文,不能禁止。这是任何自称法制国家所必须遵守的。在中国,撕任何人的画像,都可以不受约束,唯独撕他的画像就要用叛国罪来处理,你们以为中国的法律是妓女吗?当然,有可能中国的法律真的是妓女,那么如果这样,你们就别宣布这个国家是什么法制国家了好吗?!
  刚刚出事了,张宏良教授就立即转发了一个他的粉丝的微博,声称一个美国八十岁的老太太撕毁奥巴马的画像而被美国警察逮捕了!看来,美国人民是非常配合中国人民的行动的!当我们需要美国人民配合的时候,美国人民就派了一个八十岁的老太太配合了!而且暗示中国的警察,你看,美国爸爸都这样做,你个中国孙子看着办吧!
  一贯反美,一贯以敌人反对的我们都拥护,敌人拥护的我们都反对为标准的毛派们,这次却一下子站在美帝国主义政府的一面了!他能逮捕八十岁的老太太,我们为什么不能逮捕四个青年人!
  如此,假设美国逮捕撕毁奥巴马画像的八旬老人的事情是真的话,那么我们就也必须逮捕四个青年人吗?难道我们在实行美利坚合众国的法律?
  一贯反美的张宏良们,原来竟然是如此热爱美国帝国主义,如此信赖美帝国主义!甚至,在中国也要执行美国的法律了!
  喊着抗美救國,轉型備戰,反腐鋤奸,整黨正本,大眾民主,共同富裕 的张宏良们,似乎彷佛每天都在和中国的公权力进行着殊死的搏斗,但是,当出现这类事情的时候,他们还是忍不住要求助公权力,逼迫公权力为他们的私欲服务,当然也不会忘记和他们仇恨的美国进行一番比较!那就是美国能有的,我们为什么不能有呢?美国纽约被淹了,我们的北京为什么就不能被淹呢?美国连老太太都拘捕了,我们为什么不能拘捕这四个可恶的反毛小贼呢?
  难怪司马南先生声称反美是工作,赴美是生活了!原来他们真正向往的不是于人民同甘共苦的生活,而是美国人的腐朽生活!这和他们的师奶江青女士一面禁止放映任何美国电影,一面自己每天都在欣赏美国的最新电影,何其相似乃尔!
  原来这是一批口是心非之徒!
  他们渴望的,其实和人民渴望的没有一点关系!他们无非是渴望获得公权力,然后用着公权力去统治别人,无非是希望自己成为随便践踏蚂蚁的大象而已!
  刚刚又看到一条劳教的消息。某女公务员被踩脚,引出纠纷,对方竟然被劳教,而劳教的根本原因也与踩脚无关,而是为了完成上级交给的指标而已!传言如此,我没有亲见,但是为了完成指标而去劳教,在中国确实并不少见!
  公权力的可怕,而且无耻,一至于斯!这就是张宏良们心里渴望的!所希望获得的吧!

  结论:撕毁毛泽东的画像,如果他本人或他的家属觉得这是对毛泽东的一种侮辱,那么请去起诉,法院根据法律进行有罪无罪或有错无错的判决!张宏良们韩德强们是没有资格去强迫你们所厌恶的公权力直接处理这几个人的!因为你们没有经过dna的检验,证明你们确实有毛泽东的血统。
  同样,也请不要经常拿你们厌恶的美帝国主义来做中国警察处理事务的判例。虽然你们骨子里面如此地热爱美国,但是拿美国的例子来教育中国警察,实在无法向你们的拥趸者交代,你们不是露馅了吗!将来你们进行反美教育的时候,不觉得尴尬吗?
  还是去关注关注踩脚被劳教的事情吧,我们没有看到你们发出任何声音;还是关心关心任建宇被劳教的事情吧,我们同样也没有看到你们发出任何声音;还是关心关心贵州的枪击案,盘锦的强迁案,温县的枪毙小偷案吧,我们同样没有看到你们发出任何声音!
  凡是与人民利益有关的,你们都默不作声,凡是可以利用人民达到你们的不可告人的目的的,你们都拼命呼吁!这叫你们的粉丝们情何以堪?这叫你们的良心何安?
  在撕画像,打耳光和踩脚劳教的迷城里面找不到方向,只是因为你们居心不良!
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上文和上图都是转贴的. 我并非完全认同, 只是觉得有点特色.
如果在黑帮林立的加拿大, 这种事如何处理呢? 或者说, 如果我是黑帮老大, 我怎么化解该事?
首先, 不会报警, 因为不违法. 但不会就这么放他们走, 因为手下的某些马仔(毛左)不同意. 我会让韩德强和他们中的一个单挑(由韩自己选)
原因简单: 韩拥护毛, 还打人. 四青年对毛更加不敬, 所以相当于向毛左(韩德强)挑战. 黑社会, 拳头是真理, 所以他们要干一仗.
输了的一方要甘受惩罚.

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近来回到中国, 虽然有空, 但很难再看到反映文革的文学作品.
中国的冤假错案不仅仅是文革才有, 现在还有. 不过现在的迫害是比较巧妙, 很少直接用反革命罪来整人. 比如说最近看到的黑龙江省伊春市的残疾人, (敏感词)妇女陈庆霞被劳教期满、仍被限制人身自由的相关报道. 当地官员说没有关她, 不过是人文关怀.

回想自己过去这十年, 我认为自己体验了文革的许多整人的方法, 虽然生的晚, 但上天给了我时光倒流的机会. 我经常在加拿大生活, 加拿大是民主国家, 怎么会整人呢? 这我原来也不明白, 现在明白了些. 有人的地方就有江湖, 国外的人高智商, 整人的方法更NB.

所以我现在想, 民主并非是社会和谐的钥匙, 或许宗教才是改变整个社会的方法. 以后我有钱了, 变成特殊阶层了, 我也可以用钱来整人了. 但如果我相信了宗教, 我就会放下复仇的怒火. 根据宗教的KARMA的概论, 人一做坏事就埋下祸根, 所以害人就变得象自杀一样愚蠢.

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What makes you think religion will be different to democracy? The inherent intent of both religion and democracy is good, but their practice in real life is completely corrupted. Just look at Canada (and many other countries too), those rich and powerful who are corrupted and rotten  are the same ones who loudly proclaim to be pro-democracy and pro-religion.

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hi, Stephen, you make progress in Chinese, don't you? I introduce 2 websites for you so you can know more about the situation about China.
1. www.sina.com.cn
2. www.tianya.cn

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