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Chinese doctors are under threat

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)61315-3/fulltext

system change, the theme of the World Cancer Congress in Shenzhen, China, Aug 18—21, was a central message in the opening address by the Chinese Minister of Health, Chen Zhu, as he described current health-care system reforms in China. At the Congress many international health policy makers and physicians led discussions on frameworks and actions for system change, but there was little participation from local Chinese doctors.
To understand why there were so few Chinese delegates in the plenary sessions on system change compared with sessions on patients' care, one must first understand that for many Chinese doctors personal safety is of greater concern. Chinese doctors are often victims of terrible violence. In June this year, a doctor and a nurse were fatally stabbed in Shandong Province by the son of a patient who died of liver cancer 13 years ago, and a paediatrician in Fujian Province was injured after leaping out of a fifth-floor window to escape the angry relatives of a newborn baby who had died under his care. Thus, it is not surprising to see that in July police officers were invited to be the vice-presidents of 27 hospitals in Shenyang. With hospitals turned into battlegrounds, being a doctor has become a dangerous job in China.
The problem may be largely one of perception. Many Chinese patients believe that doctors and hospitals conspire to increase charges by providing unnecessary examinations, investigations, and treatments. Additionally, some doctors accept red envelopes (a monetary gift in exchange for favourable service) against the rules. Many patients blame the deterioration of their health directly on doctors, claiming that doctors lack devotion and skills. The intellectual ideals of ancient China were “either to be a good prime minister or to be an excellent doctor”, while in modern China doctors and nurses used to be worshipped as “angels in white”. How has the perception of Chinese doctors become so eroded?
The Chinese media certainly have an important role in provoking tension between doctors and patients. There is disproportionate coverage in newspapers, television, and on the internet of how health professionals have cheated patients. Just a few weeks ago the Southern Metropolis Daily (the most popular newspaper in Guangdong) falsely accused a midwife, who had treated haemorrhoids for a patient after childbirth, of stitching the patient's anus closed on purpose. In November, 2009, one of China's most authoritative media outlets, CCTV (China Central Television), reported that the renowned Peking University First Hospital was carrying out illegal medical practices by allowing medical students to do surgical procedures, and as a result a patient had died. Even though the hospital and the Ministry of Health made it clear that involving medical students in clinical procedures including surgery under the supervision of licensed doctors is legal, trust in doctors and hospitals was seriously damaged. It is hard to tell whether the misreport resulted from a lack of medical knowledge on the parts of the Southern Metropolis Daily and CCTV, or whether it was motivated by a desire for a sensational story. However, the public misunderstanding of the medical profession will surely hurt both doctors and patients in the end.
Most hospitals in China, especially the large ones such as Peking Union Medical College Hospital and Huashan Hospital of Fudan University, are run by the government. Public hospitals in China enjoyed full government funding before 1985. After economic reforms, the hospitals now receive very limited financial support from the government, with the result that hospitals must generate income to cover costs. As the main source of hospitals' income is from diagnostics and treatment, there is a financial incentive to over-investigate and over-treat. To minimise inappropriate conflicts of interest, the Chinese Government passed laws to prevent doctors receiving financial kickbacks from drug companies. Because the standard salary of a doctor is modest, even by Chinese standards, many doctors struggle to balance professional ethics and making ends meet in an economically booming China. Such pressures, coupled with a sense of feeling seriously undervalued by the government and society as a whole, drive many doctors out of medicine into other jobs.
China's health-system reforms cannot be successful without reforming the social and economic status of doctors. Chinese doctors should be involved more in shaping health policy, by giving voice to their own experiences and constructive ideas about the health system.

《柳叶刀》:中国医生 —— 威胁下的生存

(《柳叶刀》卷376,第9742期,第657页,2010年8月28日)


八月十八- 二十一日在中国深圳召开的世界抗癌大会的主题是:体制变革。这个主题正是中国卫生部部长陈竺在开幕致辞上阐述当前正在进行的中国卫生保健体制改革时所传达的中心内容。在大会上,许多国际卫生政策的制定者与医生就体制变革的准则与行动各抒己见。但是,几乎没有来自中国本地的医生参与讨论。

与患者护理会议相比,出席全体会议讨论体制变革问题的中国代表人数少得可怜。要剖析这个现象,首先必须理解:对许多中国医生来说,个人安全问题比参加会议来得更加重要。中国医生经常成为令人惊悚的暴力的受害者。

今年六月,山东省的一名医生与一名护士遇刺(医生当场死亡、护士重伤),凶手是13年前死于肝癌的一名患者的儿子;而福建省一名儿科医生因为跳出五楼窗口逃生而受伤,起因是这名医生接手治疗的新生儿因故死亡而受到愤怒的患者家属的暴力攻击。因此,七月份警官应邀担任沈阳27家医院副院长职务并不令人惊讶。医院已经成为战场,因此在中国当医生便是从事一种危险的职业。

这个问题可能主要是认识上的问题。许多中国患者相信医生与医院沆瀣一气,通过提供不必要的检查、检验与治疗提高了看病费用。此外,一些医生不顾相关法规接受红包(现金礼物,患者以此换取有利的医疗服务)。

许多患者将其健康的恶化直接归咎于医生,他们声称医生缺乏敬业精神与业务能力。中国古代的知识分子的理想是:“不为良相,当为良医”,而现代中国的医生与护士则被推崇为“白衣天使”。为何中国医生的会从昔日的道德楷模变成今天一副破落户的潦倒形象呢?

中国媒体在紧张的医患关系上显然扮演了重要角色。报纸、电视与互联网有关医生欺骗患者的报道辅天盖地,负面报道比例彻底压倒了正面报道。

仅在几个星期前,《南方都市报》(广东发行量最大的报纸)无端指控一名助产士,声称其为产妇治疗痔疮时故意缝合了患者的肛门。

2009年十一月,中国最权威的媒体之一CCTV(中国中央电视台)报道了著名的北京大学第一医院允许医学生非法行医做手术从而导致一名患者死亡。虽然该医院与卫生部解释在有执业资格的医生监督下医学生参与包括手术在内的临床工作是合法的,但社会对医生与医院的信任由此大打折扣。

对《南方都市报》与CCTV而言,很难说这种错误报导是因为其缺乏医学知识、还是因为追求轰动性的新闻效果的动机所致。不过,公众对于医疗职业的误解肯定最终损害了医患双方的利益。

中国的大多数医院,尤其是北京协和医院与复旦大学华山医院之类的大医院,都由政府运作。中国的公立医院在1985年前享受政府的全额资金支持。

经济改革后,现在的医院收到的政府金融支持十分有限,其结果是医院必须生财有道来抵消其运作成本。而医院的主要收入来自于诊断与治疗,因此存在着过度检查与过度治疗的利益动机。

为使不适当的利益冲突最小化,中国政府通过立法防止医生接受来自医药公司的金融回扣。因为医生的标准工资即使从中国的标准来看也比较少,因此在经济迅速发展的中国环境下,许多医生就必须在职业道德与收支平衡问题面前挣扎。这种压力,加之感觉到自己的服务价值被政府与社会总体严重贬低,迫使许多医生改行易辙另谋生路。

如果忽视医生的社会与经济地位的改革,中国的卫生体制改革是不会成功的。 中国医生应该就自己的经历而畅所欲言、为医疗卫生系统的发展振兴建言献策,更多地加入到卫生政策的制定中来。

转自:http://news.dxy.cn/bbs/topic/18134277

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医生有好有坏,病人也是有好有坏,我就知道沈阳的医大等医院只有找到人了才能花35万到40万才能进去当大夫,找不到人有钱也不好用。我妈妈亲身经历沈阳8院,设备院方说好的很,收费同样也好的很,但是效果就差的很了,我妈在8院做了彩超CT磁共振都没发现什么,过了12天去6院就一个彩超就发现肝脏有占位,这让我们怎么相信医生,更别说急救的时候说急诊的药没有而住院处的要不能让急诊的用让转院,这时候能做的检查全做了连血象就连做了3便,最后去路边的药房买的氨基酸(药房卖8块1瓶的药)挂上后就在急诊呆了一晚上,病房说没地方要是有钱的话可以去住ICU,这是一个医院该办的事么?要是真没病房了也行,我看到特困病房一个人没有就和大夫说他说那房间没氧气住不了人看到我们坚持后人就没影了,最后还是找的他们的大主任才住进去。去医大看教授的号,从进去到出来教授没说超过30个字,看完后我们什么都不知道,情况也不知道这病看的简直了。医生的标准工资没多少,现在有几个医生光拿标准工资?
说了这么多不好的事也有好是事,后来我们去陆总住的院,那里的医生护士很不错真的是又问必答在做介入前给红包他们主任把我爸叫了出去给训了一顿把红包给退了回来后来把农村的朋友给的土特产给了他们倒是收了。住院部和门诊的医生都不一样我去门诊拿东西的时候门诊的大夫和别的医院也都一样的表情和语气。所以得了个结论就是门诊的大夫不咋地,住院处的大夫我遇到的大都不错。
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根本还是体制问题。
记得有段时间盛谈高薪养廉(官),其实高薪养医、高薪养教比高薪养廉更迫切更重要。

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医患关系永远是对立统一的矛盾。利字当头的社会,不收红包已经很罕见了。
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说到底还是个人素质的问题,只有全民素质提高估计问题才能解决
现在关系紧张的不仅仅是医与患,还有官与民,富与贫等等
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有报道说50%以上的土地和大气都污染了,更大比例的地下水也污染了,程度还挺严重的,这样的环境里有人说可以种植出有机产品,你信吗!
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