给战友点希望－－硝唑尼特治疗慢肝

富贵数字

原帖由 齐欢畅2 于 2010-3-8 21:25 发表

估计是假药，或有其他不纯的成本。

他国外买的  这让人担心啊.
如果在国内买的 出问题了还可以找 那边买的出问题了 一走了之 ,
祝福小兵吧,, 大家都期待他能好

富贵数字

原帖由 freshnail 于 2010-3-8 21:28 发表
柠檬花提到过 硝唑尼特 可能会导致 腹泻

看来 硝唑尼特 对消化系统有一定的副作用

腹泻要是能把病毒一起拉出来就好了

齐欢畅2

小兵，你下线了吗，来说说情况啊

富贵数字

原帖由 齐欢畅2 于 2010-3-8 22:11 发表
小兵，你下线了吗，来说说情况啊

下了吧 ,
我看小兵应该去咨询下医生或者化验下好点

齐欢畅2

真的小错尼特吃下去肯定，无安全性的问题。有效

齐欢畅2

硝唑尼特作用机制是否和干扰素差不多。
都是促进免疫应答的，但效果应该比干扰素好吧。谢谢大家！抛砖引玉了先。
我觉得硝唑尼特不可能直接杀死病毒，就其展现的多种抗病毒抗细菌特性，只有一种可能，就是他可以帮助启动免疫应答，昨天和蔡老师聊天时，他说如果cccDNA没有被干掉，就不能说治愈了。~~~
他说他的药就是可以直接干掉cccDNA的，我又思考了“换个思路”的帖子关于Th1杀灭cccdna的机制http://www.hbvhbv.com/forum/thread-766170-1-3.html，觉得治愈的正确道路都是擒贼先秦王。
这样我就觉得蔡老师的药的思路是对的，看看该药是否能干掉cccdna，他的实验是这么做的，结果是否真的那么好，我也不得而知了。
但硝错尼特是怎么使某些同志hbsag转阴的呢？？这个我想应该是激发了免疫应答的结果。查了下闹心啊的帖子，渺小渺说的是它有促进启动免疫细胞之类的缘故。这和我的猜想切合。大家探讨下啊，我认为，这个论坛的资源已经可以使我们战胜乙肝了，但需要一个分析综合的人，小弟不才，想试试看这个光荣而艰巨的任务。希望大家支持我。

[ 本帖最后由 齐欢畅2 于 2010-3-8 23:18 编辑 ]

齐欢畅2

人体的th1免疫应答可以干掉大部分cccdna，但不是全部，而细胞裂解机制应该是一种杀灭cccdna的补充。
但由于免疫抑制和母婴传染的感染深度太深了，而免疫应答又不够强，所以很难杀灭干净。
所以我觉得，要么某药物可以直接杀灭cccdna，要么可以大大提高免疫反应，才可能完全干掉cccdna。
所以我觉得，小错尼特，和蔡老师的药物都有可能是攻克乙肝的药物。但前提是你的免疫反应已经产生免疫应答，也就是说，病毒载量高，转氨酶 持续高于正常值的两倍。

lingmaigui

俺想不出来过程。来看各位服药的结果。
这是大家的希望啊。

lemonades

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a603017.html
吃硝唑尼特的注意事项
Why is this medication prescribed?   Return to top
Nitazoxanide is used to treat diarrhea in children and adults caused by the protozoa Cryptosporidium or Giardia. Protozoa are suspected as the cause when diarrhea lasts more than 7 days. Nitazoxanide is in a class of medications called antiprotozoal agents. It works by stopping the growth of certain protozoa that cause diarrhea.

How should this medicine be used?   Return to top
Nitazoxanide comes as a tablet and a suspension (liquid) to take by mouth. It is usually taken with food every 12 hours for 3 days. Take nitazoxanide at around the same times every day. Follow the directions on your prescription label carefully, and ask your doctor or pharmacist to explain any part you do not understand. Take nitazoxanide exactly as directed. Do not take more or less of it or take it more often than prescribed by your doctor.

Shake the suspension well before each use to mix the medication evenly.

Other uses for this medicine   Return to top
This medication may be prescribed for other uses; ask your doctor or pharmacist for more information.

What special precautions should I follow?   Return to top
Before taking nitazoxanide,

tell your doctor and pharmacist if you are allergic to nitazoxanide or any other medications.
tell your doctor and pharmacist what prescription and nonprescription medications, vitamins, nutritional supplements, and herbal products you are taking or plan to take. Be sure to mention any of the following: anticoagulants ('blood thinners') such as warfarin (Coumadin). Your doctor may need to change the doses of your medications or monitor you carefully for side effects.
tell your doctor if you have or have ever had human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), problems with the immune system, or liver or kidney disease.
tell your doctor if you are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or are breast-feeding. If you become pregnant while taking nitazoxanide, call your doctor.
What special dietary instructions should I follow?   Return to top
To prevent dehydration caused by diarrhea, make sure you or your child gets enough to drink. Take small, frequent sips of water, fruit juice, sports drinks, or broth.

What should I do if I forget a dose?   Return to top
Take the missed dose as soon as you remember it. However, if it is almost time for the next dose, skip the missed dose and continue your regular dosing schedule. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed one.

What side effects can this medication cause?   Return to top
Nitazoxanide may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:

stomach pain
headache
upset stomach
vomiting
discolored urine

Some side effects can be serious. If you experience any of these symptoms, call your doctor immediately:

skin rash
itching

Nitazoxanide may cause other side effects. Call your doctor if you have any unusual problems while taking this medication.

If you experience a serious side effect, you or your doctor may send a report to the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) MedWatch Adverse Event Reporting program online [at http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch] or by phone [1-800-332-1088].

What storage conditions are needed for this medicine?   Return to top
Keep this medication in the container it came in, tightly closed, and out of reach of children. Store it at room temperature and away from excess heat and moisture (not in the bathroom). Throw away any medication that is outdated or no longer needed. Throw away any unused nitazoxanide suspension after 7 days. Talk to your pharmacist about the proper disposal of your medication.

In case of emergency/overdose   Return to top
In case of overdose, call your local poison control center at 1-800-222-1222. If the victim has collapsed or is not breathing, call local emergency services at 911.

What other information should I know?   Return to top
Keep all appointments with your doctor.

Patients with diabetes should know that there are 1.48 grams of sucrose in each teaspoon of nitazoxanide suspension.

Do not let anyone else take your medication. Your prescription is probably not refillable. If you still have diarrhea after you finish the nitazoxanide, call your doctor.

It is important for you to keep a written list of all of the prescription and nonprescription (over-the-counter) medicines you are taking, as well as any products such as vitamins, minerals, or other dietary supplements. You should bring this list with you each time you visit a doctor or if you are admitted to a hospital. It is also important information to carry with you in case of emergencies.



我买了，还没到。

[ 本帖最后由 lemonades 于 2010-3-9 08:01 编辑 ]

hunterpt

　有反应　是真药　　　没反应才是假药啊　！！！　joke　：）