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To my mind, the advances in understanding the HBV life cycle are key to the development of a cure. In your
newsletter issue, you reviewed a 2016 article by Hayes and colleagues that reported on our current state of HBV life
cycle knowledge. Please summarize that information for us.
DR. THIO: The important point the Hayes paper brings out is the steps that lead to the development of the covalently closed
circular DNA, or cccDNA, in the hepatocyte nucleus. This podcast isn’t the appropriate forum to discuss all of those steps in
detail, but I refer you to the newsletter to learn what some of those steps are. But I do want to hit home the point that the
cccDNA is used as the transcription template to form all of the mRNA that are used either replication or that form the various
proteins including surface antigen, e antigen, the X protein, and the core antigen. So without the cccDNA, the hepatitis B
replication and life cycle would stop.
MR. BUSKER: Keeping in mind what you just said about cccDNA, how should we define the word “cure” in regard to
hepatitis B?
DR. THIO: I think you can think of cure in two ways. The first would be what I would call a functional cure, which is what we
see in the majority of people who have natural hepatitis B recovery — people who develop surface antibody and lose
surface antigen after an acute infection. These people, for the most part, still retain cccDNA in the nucleus of some but not
all hepatocytes.
We know this because when these people become immunosuppressed either with medications or with an immune
suppressive disease such as HIV, or they are put on immunosuppressive therapy after transplant, their hepatitis B can
reactivate because cccDNA is still present in some hepatocytes.
So a functional cure would be to a point where we’re stopping replication after discontinuing medicaitons but we’re not
getting rid of that cccDNA. We are achieving that with a very small proportion of people with the currently available
therapies for hepatitis B.
The other type of cure, which I think is more difficult to achieve, is what we would call an eradication cure, which would
eliminate the cccDNA to the point where it doesn’t exist in the nuclei of any hepatocytes.
MR. BUSKER: What are the research approaches for either a functional cure or an eradication or elimination cure?
DR. THIO: In the big overview there are two basic approaches: the virological approach or the immunological approach.
The virological approach is just what it sounds like. The idea would be to attack the virus at various steps in the replication
cycle. As I mentioned, the Hayes paper talks about some of the steps toward building up to the cccDNA, and several other
steps also occur after the cccDNA is established in the nucleus. Attacking the cccDNA directly would also be one of the
virological approaches. Any of those steps could be targeted to block the replication life cycle for hepatitis B.
The current hepatitis B polymerase inhibitiors attack one of those steps, but many more steps could also be attacked.
The important thing to understand with the immunological approach is that the immune system in chronic hepatitis B is
defective in that it’s tolerant to the hepatitis B antigens. So the idea in the immunological approach would be to boost the
immune response to hepatitis B, which could be done either by boosting the general immune response or by boosting a
hepatitis B-specific immune response.
MR. BUSKER: Tell us about some of the virological approaches that are currently being investigated.
DR. THIO: On the bright side, a lot of approaches are currently being studied. Some of those will eventually fall by the
wayside, but it’s important that we understand at least what people are doing at this point.
One of the approaches would be to block the entry of the hepatitis B virus into the hepatocyte. When the hepatitis B enters
the hepatocyte, and this is reviewed in the Hayes paper, it binds to the NTCP receptor. This receptor is used as a bile acid
transport receptor, but something that also binds hepatitis B and allows it to enter.
A compound called Myrcludex B was synthesized before the receptor was identified because we knew at that point which
part of the hepatitis B virus bound to an unknown receptor. Myrcludex B was synthesized to match this pre-S1 region of
hepatitis B where this binding occurs. This compound basically blocks the binding of hepatitis B to the NTCP receptor.
Another drug, cyclosporine A, which is already available and used, also binds the NTCP receptor, and some studies have
looked at that.
In the newsletter I discuss a paper, a phase 2a clinical trial that was presented at the American Association for the Study of
Liver Diseases conference, which looked at Myrcludex B as a treatment for hepatitis B. The authors studied patients who
were HBeAg-negative and had chronic hepatitis B, all with hepatitis B DNA levels greater than 2000 and did not have
cirrhosis. They were given increasing doses of Myrcludex-B subcutaneously, from 0.5 mg to 10 mg. All of these doses were
given once daily for 12 weeks; the 10 mg group received an additional 12 weeks of treatment. They found that the response
was best in the 10 mg group. Six of eight people who received 10 mg achieved greater than a 1 log decline of hepatitis B
DNA at 12 weeks, compared to only about 21% of all the other people in the other groups. No changes in hepatitis B
surface antigen levels occurred, and the tolerability was excellent, except for three people who had some injection site
reaction.
This study is interesting because it shows you can lead to declines in hepatitis B DNA levels, but whether it will be an
important component of a cure needs to be studied. Certainly longer durations of this drug also need to be studied. That’s
one virological approach, just block the receptor.
Another approach would be to silence the mRNAs. I mentioned that the cccDNA is the transcript for making all the mRNAs.
And as probably many of you know, in other diseases people are working to silence these mRNAs so the downstream
effects of the mRNAs are no longer present. With hepatitis B, if we can silence the mRNAs, we can stop replication because
the pre-
genomic RNA can’t encapsulate, and could stop more surface antigen particles from being produced.
It’s important to understand that because more than one mRNA is produced from the cccDNA, sometimes these surface
antigen particles are produced but don’t contain any hepatitis B DNA; these are called empty particles. These empty
particles are important because they are thought to play a role in immune tolerance. If you can decrease the number of
these empty particles, perhaps there might be a way to boost the immune system toward eliminating hepatitis B.
Other virological approaches being considered include capsid inhibitors. I’ve been mentioning that the pregenomic RNA
needs to be encapsulated, and one approach is to prevent this encapsulation with capsid inhibitors. Other approaches
include degrading the cccDNA itself, and also blocking release of hepatitis B surface antigen particles.
Those are some of the virologic approaches that are currently under development.
MR. BUSKER: What about the immunological approaches? What can you tell us about those?
DR. THIO: There are many immunologic approaches, as well. As I mentioned earlier in this podcast, you can either
stimulate the general immune system or you can stimulate the hepatitis B-specific immune system.
One of the approaches is to activate the general immune response by blocking the toll-like receptor-7 or TLR-7. TLR-7 is a
pattern recognition receptor that increases both the adaptive and the innate immune response. If you can stimulate TLR-7,
hopefully you can increase the immune response, which would allow elimination of infected hepatocytes.
One study reviewed in the newsletter looked at this TLR-7 agonist in 100 people, 84 of whom received either one or two
doses of the drug. They found no change in hepatitis B DNA, but that probably wouldn’t be expected with just one dose.
They did notice, however, an increase in a particular interferon-stimulated gene called ISG-15 mRNA, and the mRNA in the
people who received the highest doses of TLR-7 increased, suggesting that this drug was stimulating the immune system to
some degree. More studies will be needed to see whether that immune stimulation leads to a reduction in hepatitis B DNA.
The other general approach is to block the immune checkpoint markers. The important thing to understand is that in chronic
hepatitis B, these inhibitory pathways or immune checkpoint markers are up-regulated. When there is chronic stimulation by
some antigen, in this case hepatitis B, the T cells become tolerant to this by up-regulating these markers. The idea is, if you
can block these markers, perhaps you can reverse this tolerance or immune-exhausted state and allow the T cells then to
attack the infected hepatocytes.
One example reviewed in the newsletter is blocking the PD-1/PD-L1 pathway, which has been used in various cancer
chemotherapies and is now being studied with hepatitis B. In general, this study showed that patients who received this
immune checkpoint blocker along with other medications, including a therapeutic vaccine and a polymerase inhibitor, did
have some increase in their immune control of hepatitis B virus. But whether this leads to a cure for hepatitis B also needs
more study.
The other important point to know about trying to stimulate the general immune system against hepatitis B is concern that
this could lead to fulminant hepatitis. If someone has many infected hepatocytes and you unleash immune tolerance and
the T cells begin attacking the infected hepatocytes, that leads to a fulminant hepatitis. So I think up-regulating the general
immune system will be a balance between too much immune response and not enough immune response, because you
don’t want too much, which then leads to a fulminant hepatitis situation.
The other approach, if you’re not going to activate the general immune system, is to activate the hepatitis B-specific T cells.
These studies are just starting to be under development and weren’t reviewed in the newsletter, but I will just say that the
basic ideas here are either to give a therapeutic vaccine that takes parts of the hepatitis B virus that are thought to be the
most immunogenic or most likely to stimulate the immune system, and give that as a therapeutic vaccine in the hope that
you can stimulate the hepatitis B-specific T cells to attack the hepatocytes.
The other way is to engineer T cells themselves, and put them back into the patient to stimulate an immune response to
hepatitis B.
MR. BUSKER: There’s an impressive amount of research going on. How close do you think we are to developing a
cure for hepatitis B?
DR. THIO: I don’t think we’re very close.
As you can tell from the papers we have discussed here and are discussed in the
newsletter, most of them are still in very early phase trials, trying to find the correct dose and trying to understand the side
effects of these various drugs. So I think we’re many, many years away from curing hepatitis B.
There are no current studies of these new agents demonstrating that they can cure hepatitis B on their own. As I mentioned
with the current polymerase inhibitors, some people can achieve this functional cure, but 5% of people actually lose surface
antigen and develop surface antibody with just a polymerase inhibitor. So we know it can be achieved, but we certainly
would want to achieve it in more people than that, and these newer drugs are a long way from being able to do either a
functional or an eradication cure.
MR. BUSKER: But are you confident that a cure is possible?
DR. THIO: Yes.
As I mentioned, we can already achieve a functional cure with some of the polymerase inhibitors. It is not
very common but it is possible, so you need to believe that we should be able to achieve a functional cure in more people.
We also know that 90% to 95% adults who get infected achieve what we are aiming for: functional cure. They don’t develop
chronic hepatitis B; they develop surface antibodies, and even if they still have cccDNA present in some of their
hepatocytes, their livers do not suffer any consequences of having that cccDNA.
Because most people can naturally achieve what we would call a functional cure, I think we should be able to figure out
how to achieve this in more people who have chronic hepatitis B. An eradication cure will be more difficult, because even
people who naturally develop surface antibody and recover from hepatitis B don’t eradicate the cccDNA, but I think it will be
possible with some of the newer technologies.

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在我看来,在了解了乙肝病毒生命周期中的进步是关键,治疗的发展。在你的
通讯问题,回顾2016年的文章海耶斯和同事说,我们目前HBV的生活状况报告
周期知识。请您总结一下这些信息对我们来说。
DR。 THIO:最重要的一点海耶​​斯纸张带出的是,导致的共价闭合的发展步骤
环状DNA,或cccDNA的,在肝细胞核。该播客是不是合适的论坛,讨论在所有这些步骤
细节,但我是指你的通讯,以了解其中的一些步骤。但我想打回家的一点,即
的cccDNA用作转录模板,以形成所有被使用,也可以复制或形式的各种的mRNA的
蛋白,包括表面抗原,e抗原时,X蛋白,核心抗原。所以,没有的cccDNA,乙肝
复制和生命周期将停止。
先生。街头艺人:铭记你刚才说的对cccDNA的,我们应该如何对于定义词“治疗”
乙型肝炎?
DR。 THIO:我想你可以用两种方式认为治愈。第一是我所说的功能性治疗,这是我们
看到多数有自然的乙肝康复的人谁 - 谁开发表面抗体和输人
急性感染后表面抗原。这些人,在大多数情况下,仍然保留的cccDNA中的一些但不是核
所有的肝细胞。
我们知道这是因为当这些人成为免疫抑制或者与药物或免疫
抑制疾病如艾滋病,或者他们被移植手术后穿上免疫抑制治疗,他们的乙型肝炎可
重新因为cccDNA的仍然存在在某些肝细胞。
因此,一个功能治愈就到我们停止medicaitons后停止复制一个点,但我们不
摆脱那个cccDNA的的。我们正在实现这一带的人与现有的比重很小
用于治疗乙型肝炎
另一种类型的治疗,我认为这是比较难以实现的,也就是我们称之为根除治疗,这将
消除的cccDNA到它不以任何肝细胞的细胞核中存在的点。
先生。街头艺人:什么是研究方法为任何一个功能治愈或消灭或消除治疗?
DR。 THIO:在大的概述有两种基本方法:病毒学方法或免疫学方法。
病毒学方法正是这听起来像。这个想法是攻击在各个步骤病毒在复制
周期。正如我所说,一些步骤海耶斯纸会谈朝着建设到的cccDNA等几个
该cccDNA的是建立在核之后的步骤也时有发生。攻击直接的cccDNA也将是一
病毒学的方法。所有这些步骤可以有针对性地阻止乙肝复制的生命周期
目前乙肝多聚酶抑制物攻击这些步骤之一,但更多的步骤也可以被攻击。
随着免疫学的方法来了解的重要一点是,在慢性乙肝免疫系统
一个缺点是它的耐乙型肝炎抗原。因此,在免疫学方法的想法是提振
乙肝免疫反应,这既可以通过提高一般免疫反应或通过提高一个来完成
乙型肝炎特异性免疫应答。
先生。街头艺人:给我们介绍一些目前正在调查病毒学办法。
DR。 THIO:在光明的一面,有很多方法目前正在研究。其中一些最终将在今年秋季
路边,但重要的是我们至少了解什么人在这一点上做的事情。
一项所述的方法将是阻止的乙型肝炎病毒进入肝细胞。当乙肝进入
肝细胞,这是在海耶斯综述,其绑定到NTCP受体。这种受体被用作胆汁酸
运输受体的事,但也结合乙肝并允许它进入。
因为我们知道在这一点上合成称为Myrcludex B A化合物经鉴定该受体前已
结合到一个未知受体乙型肝炎病毒的一部分。 Myrcludex B的合成,以配合此前S1区
乙型肝炎在哪里此绑定发生。该化合物基本上块乙型肝炎的结合到NTCP受体。
另一种药物,环孢素A,这已经是可用的并用,也结合了NTCP受体,以及一些研究
看着那个。
在通讯我将讨论一份文件,这是在美国协会颁发的研究阶段2A临床试验
肝病会议,看着Myrcludex B,为治疗乙肝作者研究了病人谁
为HBeAg阴性和患有慢性乙肝,所有乙肝DNA水平大于2000,并没有
肝硬化。他们被给予增加剂量Myrcludex-B皮下的,从0.5毫克至10毫克。所有这些剂量分别为
每日一次给予12周; 10 mg组收到额外的12周的治疗。他们发现,该反应
最好是10毫克小组。谁收到10毫克八人取得六比乙肝的1日志下降较大
的DNA在12周相比,只有约21%,在其他组中的所有其他人。乙肝无变化
表面抗原水平发生,并且耐受性是优异的,除了谁了一些注射部位三人
反应。
这项研究很有趣,因为这表明你可以导致乙肝DNA水平下降,但是否将是一个
需要研究治愈的重要组成部分。当然这种药物的更长的持续时间也需要研究。那是
1病毒学的方法,只是阻断受体。
另一种方法是沉默的mRNA。我提到的cccDNA是使所有的mRNA转录。
而作为可能很多人都知道,在其他疾病的人正在努力平息这些mRNA因此下游
的mRNA的效果不再存在。乙肝,如果我们能沉默的mRNA,我们可以停止复制,因为

基因组RNA不能封装,并可能被停止生产更多的表面抗原颗粒。
要明白,因为不止一个基因是从生产的cccDNA是很重要的,有时候这些表面
抗原颗粒生产,但不包含任何乙型肝炎的DNA;这些被称为空粒子。这些空
因为它们被认为在免疫耐受作用的颗粒是重要的。如果你能减少数量
这些空颗粒,或许还有可能​​对增强免疫系统对消除乙肝的方法
正在考虑其他的病毒学方法包括衣壳抑制剂。我一直在提的是,前基因组RNA
需要封装,以及一种方法是,以防止这种封装与衣壳抑制剂。其他方法
包括降解的cccDNA本身,并且还阻断乙肝表面抗原颗粒的释放。
这些都是一些正在开发的病毒学办法。
先生。街头艺人:对免疫学方法是什么?你能告诉我们关于那些?
DR。 THIO:有很多免疫的方法,以及。正如我在这个播客前面提到的,您可以
刺激一般免疫系统,也可以刺激B-具体肝炎的免疫系统。
一项所述的方法的是通过阻断激活的一般免疫反应的toll样受体7或TLR-7。 TLR-7是一个
这同时增加了自适应和先天免疫应答的模式识别受体。如果你能刺激TLR-7,
希望你可以增加免疫反应,这将使消除感染的肝细胞中。
在通讯评审的一项研究搜索这TLR-7激动剂100人,其中84收到一个或两个
剂量的药物。他们发现,在乙肝DNA没有变化,但可能会只用一个剂量预期不。
他们没有通知,但是,增加了在特定的干扰素刺激基因称为ISG-15的mRNA,而mRNA表达在
谁获得了最高剂量的TLR-7的人增加,这表明该药物是刺激免疫系统,以
一定程度上。更多的研究将需要看到,免疫刺激是否导致乙型肝炎的DNA的减少。
其他一般的方法是阻断免疫检查点标记。要了解的重要一点是,在慢性
乙型肝炎,这些抑制通路或免疫检查点标记上调。当存在慢性刺激由
某些抗原,在这种情况下乙型肝炎,T细胞通过上调这些标记变得宽容此。我们的想法是,如果
可以阻止这些标记,或许可以扭转这种耐受性或免疫枯竭状态,并允许T细胞再到
攻击感染的肝细胞。
在通讯审查一个例子是阻断PD-1 / PD-L1的通路,这已在各种癌症中使用
化疗,目前正在与乙型肝炎一般的研究,这项研究表明,谁收到这样的病人
与其他药物,包括治疗性疫苗和聚合酶抑制剂沿免疫检查点阻断剂,没
有乙肝病毒的免疫控制有所增加。但是,这是否会导致治愈乙肝也需要
更多的研究。
另外重要的一点了解试图刺激一般免疫系统对乙肝关注的是,
这可能会导致暴发性肝炎。如果有人有很多感染的肝细胞,你释放免疫耐受和
T细胞开始攻击感染的肝细胞,这导致暴发性肝炎。所以,我认为上调一般
免疫系统将太多的免疫应答和不够的免疫反应之间的平衡,因为你
不想过多,然后导致暴发性肝炎的情况。
另一种方法,如果你不打算激活通用的免疫系统,是激活乙肝特异性B-T细胞。
这些研究刚开始是正在开发中的通讯都没有审查,但我只想说,
基本思路这里要么以得到治疗性疫苗需要被认为是乙型肝炎病毒的部分
大多数免疫原性或最有可能刺激免疫系统,并给予在希望的治疗性疫苗
你可以刺激乙肝特异性B-T细胞攻击肝细胞。
另一种方法是对工程师T细胞本身,并把它们放回患者以刺激到的免疫应答
乙型肝炎
先生。街头艺人:有研究正在进行数量惊人。如何接近你认为我们是一个发展
治愈乙肝?
DR。 THIO:我不认为我们已经非常接近。你可以从我们这里讨论,并在讨论的文件告诉
通讯,大多仍处于非常早期的阶段临床试验,试图找到正确的剂量,并试图了解身边
这些不同的药物的影响。所以,我觉得我们是很多年远离治疗肝炎B.
目前并没有这些新的代理商证明他们可以自己治愈乙肝的研究。如我所说
当前聚合酶抑制剂,有些人可以达到这个功能治愈,但5%的人实际上失去表面
抗原和发展表面抗体只用聚合酶抑制剂。因此,我们知道它可以实现的,但我们肯定
想实现它比更多的人,而这些新的药物都是从一个很长的路要走能够做到无论是
功能或根除治疗。
先生。街头艺人:但你相信治愈是可能的?
DR。 THIO:是的。正如我所说,我们已经可以实现与一些聚合酶抑制剂的功能治愈。不是这样
很常见的,但它是可能的,所以你需要相信,我们应该能够在更多的人实现了功能治愈。
我们也知道,谁受到感染90%〜95%的成年人达到我们的目标为:功能治愈。他们没有发展
慢性乙型肝炎;他们开发表面抗体,即使他们仍然有cccDNA的存在于一些其
肝细胞,他们的肝脏不吃亏具有的cccDNA的任何后果。
因为大多数人自然可以实现我们所说的功能性治疗,我想我们应该能够找出
如何在越来越多的人谁具有慢性乙型肝炎的根除治疗会更困难实现这一点,因为即使
人谁自然发展表面抗体和乙肝恢复不彻底根治的cccDNA,但我认为这将是
可能有一些新的技术。

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建议有实力的众筹基金会,十亿元级以上,真劝慰雷军、地产商、首富、百度,强生战略入股,全球重金悬赏求拜攻克乙肝的美国古巴专家英才及技术!!齐参与、正能量,或许好药就在转角间被发现,如果没有?就用真实去验证及考证中草药民间名医,延长寿命
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