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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/want-to-enroll-in-a-clinical-trial-nih-database-is-huge--but-lacks-a-few-key-details/2016/07/26/52e5eda8-4518-11e6-88d0-6adee48be8bc_story.html
— but lacks a few key details










Linda Smith turned to ClinicalTrials.gov to find a research therapy for her osteoarthritis, only to be told by one company that she first had to pay $14,000 before she could participate in its study. (Heidi de Marco/Kaiser Health News)
By Emily Bazar July 26

Linda Smith learned last summer that she was losing significant cartilage in her knees, a consequence of a lifetime spent skiing, running and playing ultimate Frisbee.

Osteoarthritis was diagnosed, and she wanted to avoid surgery. So the 56-year-old Californian began looking for a research study that might offer an alternative. She scoured the government-run website ClinicalTrials.gov, and focused on stem-cell therapy — a promising but unproven approach for her condition.

She thought she had scored with StemGenex Medical Group, a company in La Jolla, Calif., and called for more details about a study it was doing. The screener asked a long list of questions, then dropped a bomb: If Smith wanted in, she’d have to pay “associated” costs. Total charge: $14,000.

“I was outraged,” said Smith, a retired hospital administrator who knew enough about clinical studies to realize that the price tag was unusual. Most trials are free, and some even pay people to take part because of the possible risks and inconvenience involved.

But ClinicalTrials.gov, maintained by the National Institutes of Health, says nothing about any charges to participants. The 16-year-old website is the most comprehensive such database publicly available in the United States, with listings for nearly 220,000 clinical studies in the United States and abroad. It does not independently vet those listings, however, or require trial sponsors to disclose potential costs.

The National Institutes of Health maintains the ClinicalTrials.gov website but does not vet the nearly 220,000 studies listed on the site.

“I went back to [ClinicalTrials.gov] and looked at the study again. It doesn’t say that patients are the funding source,” Smith said. The final affront was the screener’s suggestion that she could raise the $14,000 through an online GoFundMe campaign. “I was disappointed in the NIH. I thought, ‘Why are you letting this occur?’ ”

StemGenex denies that it charges people for enrolling in its clinical studies and maintains that the cost involved is only for the treatment being tested. A person’s actual research participation is separate, according to a company statement. Anyone who has undergone treatment is eligible to “voluntarily participate.”

The osteoarthritis study “is intended to be an observational study comparing two sets of data — before and after stem cell treatment,” Candace Henderson, vice president of operations, said in the statement. “The actual treatment is not part of the study protocol.”

Some ethicists and medical experts who share Smith’s concern say that is a false distinction. They say that if trial sponsors require participants to pay, the government website should let people know. Not doing so misleads consumers and makes ClinicalTrials.gov a marketing tool for pay-to-play research, they argue.

The site’s lack of transparency is a growing concern, in part because of the surge in stem-cell research and in clinics offering unproven, high-priced treatments, said Leigh Turner, an associate professor at the University of Minnesota Center for Bioethics.

“It’s not just a handful of patients who are encountering these kind of so-called studies on ClinicalTrials.gov and not just a handful of studies,” he said. “It is a bigger problem than that.”

[Unregulated stem-cell clinics are proliferating across the United States ]


Critics worry that some people seeking to participate in clinical trials may be desperately sick or in pain and vulnerable to requests for money they don’t have. These patients see the “.gov” domain and the NIH imprimatur as stamps of approval that mean the research is legitimate, they say.

“The average patient and even people in health care . . . kind of let their guard down when they’re in that database. It’s like, ‘If a trial is listed here, it must be okay,’ ” said Paul Knoepfler, an associate professor at the University of California at Davis School of Medicine who writes ablog about stem-cell research. “Most people don’t realize that creeping into that database are some trials whose main goal is to generate profit.”

Yet Rebecca Williams, the website’s assistant director, described it as primarily a clearinghouse and said that just because a study is included “does not necessarily mean an endorsement by the federal government.”

ClinicalTrials.gov relies heavily on the honor system and is not legally required to verify information provided by study sponsors, she said. Sponsors, whether pharmaceutical companies or universities, attest that the material they are submitting is complete and that their research complies with “all of the applicable regulations that may apply.”

When registering, they must provide a variety of details, including, in most cases, information about the committees that oversee the welfare and treatment of human subjects.

As to whether costs for study participants should be disclosed, “that’s a valid question,” said Williams, who holds a doctor of pharmacy degree and previously reviewed prescription drug advertising and promotion at the Food and Drug Administration.

“That has been information we don’t collect in a systematic way,” she said. Nor does NIH have any way to know whether a listing is essentially a for-profit study. Regardless, she added, it has no policy that would exclude them.

Williams pointed to the website’s disclaimer that the government is not liable for and does not “make any warranties” about information in the database. She also noted that the site suggests questions for consumers to ask, including, “Who will pay for my participation?”

The FDA regulates clinical trials of medications and medical devices and sets guidelines that determine when patients can be charged. But stem-cell studies, which often use patients’ cells to treat an array of conditions, can fall into a gray area, and what requires FDA approval is sometimes unclear or disputed.

[There’s a new sheriff in town in Silicon Valley — the FDA]

StemGenex’s website acknowledges that its procedures are not FDA approved. At the same time, it says its studies are “registered through The National Institutes of Health which can be found at www.ClinicalTrials.gov. . . . By providing patients access to stem cell studies registered through The National Institutes of Health, patients now have the ability to choose treatment for osteoarthritis that focuses on both safety and efficacy,” the site says.

StemGenex further underscores the point in its site’s FAQ, noting that having studies registered on ClinicalTrials.gov gives it a “significant advantage compared with treatment centers offering unregistered studies.”

Turner called those messages misleading because they suggest that NIH has vetted the studies. “In fact, nobody at the NIH or in our government has necessarily, or even likely, looked” at them, he said.

The company, which describes itself as “the [premier] leader in the United States for regenerative medicine,” says it offers “a concierge approach to treatment.” That includes covering the cost of patients’ hotel accommodations and a car service that “will be waiting for you at the airport baggage claim when you arrive.”

Its website also explains StemGenex’s procedure, in which dormant stem cells are harvested from a patient’s fat through “a mini-liposuction” and isolated from the fat. They are “activated with the patient’s growth factors,” then infused back into the individual. The stem cells “follow inflammatory signals from damaged tissues and have multiple ways of repairing these damaged areas.”

StemGenex says it invests revenue from its clinical trials “in innovation and research to further the development and advancement” of therapies. It has four other studies listed on the NIH website: for Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. In those cases, too, participants “are recruited from among patients who are having stem cell treatment,” Henderson said in the company statement.

Alison Bateman-House, a postdoctoral fellow in medical ethics at the New York University School of Medicine, takes a dim view of that reasoning:

“It’s unethical that these companies are saying, ‘Sure, come take part in our study, and by the way, we’re going to charge you for the privilege.’ ”

She and the other critics would like to see NIH reevaluate its position on what studies are allowed to post on the website and what detail must be included.

“It’s one of the best sources we have,” said Ken Getz of Tufts University, founder of the Center for Information and Study on Clinical Research Participation. “But there’s still room for misleading and incomplete information.”

For now, people such as Linda Smith may have to work harder to find cost-free trials. After months of searching, she eventually located a stem-cell trial that doesn’t charge for participation. In fact, she and the other enrollees receive $50 per visit to help cover mileage, parking and other expenses.


Kaiser Health News is a national health policy news service that is part of the nonpartisan Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation.




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本帖最后由 smilingcloud 于 2016-8-10 07:43 编辑

http://www.ipscell.com/2016/08/stem-cell-hard-sell-new-paper-stem-cells-translational-medicine/

The stem cell hard sell: my new paper in Stem Cells Translational MedicinePosted on August 8, 2016

I just published a paperin Stem Cells Translational Medicine on my experience traveling to and attending a stem cell clinic patient recruitment seminar.

It was an intense experience and one where I felt at risk. To some extent it is akin to going into the lion’s den. I didn’t know what reaction I would get if I were recognized by those running the seminar, which in fact did happen. They did not seem happy at all that I was there even though I wasn’t disruptive in the least. I had hoped to ask a few questions from my place in the audience, but the format did not allow it. Still I wondered if I could be kicked out. That didn’t happen.

I call these stem cell clinic seminars “infomercial” seminars because they remind me of hard sell pitches on TV.

One of the striking things about this seminar to me was the range of medical-related claims that were made (see summary table from the paper above). Clinics these days are often, but not always getting more careful about making FDA-related claims. At this seminar the claim was made that the stem cells being sold were FDA approved. I doubt that very much.

There were about thirty people at this seminar and there are hundreds of these seminars each year across the U.S. making it likely that thousands of Americans are attending each year. This is a big concern given the claims being made and the fact that some fraction of attendees will end up getting a non-FDA approved stem cell therapy that could put them at risk. These therapies are very expensive too.

Last year Dr. David Brafman did a guest post on his intense experience at a seminar at the Lung Institute.

Have you gone to a seminar like this? What was your experience? Did you end up getting a treatment and how did that go?



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美国的干细胞临床试验中,个别向患者收费。
面向患者的介绍会议中,有如下介绍。
不可预见的治疗效果---有
不可预见的副作用---没有
没有取得FDA的认证却写着---取得



简直就是5月份魏泽西事件的美国版本。

为这种欺诈行为洗地的就是MP4。
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美国的干细胞临床试验中,个别向患者收费。
面向患者的介绍会议中,有如下介绍。
不可预见的治疗效果---有



不懂英文,不知你说什么
对于魏则西,你有什么不服可以去原贴
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MP4 发表于 2016-8-10 21:03
不懂英文,不知你说什么
对于魏则西,你有什么不服可以去原贴

不服自己看。
观点3楼概括了。

临床实验收患者巨额费用不合理。
预计近期美国会对干细胞临床实验操作加强监管的。
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不服自己看。
观点3楼概括了。



不懂英文不会看。
魏的你去原贴讲中文
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有人告诉我,这个版面讲英语没啥高大上。
不懂自己学。

今后旅游签证去美国接受收费项目的干细胞临床试验,
可能会变得困难起来。
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