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公布结果的时间一再推迟,到了9月4日,会不会又是一些含糊的说辞,让人还是不清楚它成功了没有?怎么感觉像中国的研究报告,给人不踏实的感觉。请大神们解读一下。

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"We think the format of an analyst day will allow us to provide a more
comprehensive overview of what we are learning than if we simply provided top
line results in a press release. Some of what we have learned was rather surprising
to us and our advisors. We believe that our work represents a real advance for the
HBV field and has helped us move our program forward. We have lined up a panel
of international experts to talk about the HBV field and how our new data may
challenge some widely accepted theories. These panelists include Dr. Robert Gish,
Dr. Stephen Locarnini, and Dr. Robert Lanford.
The live event for institutional
investors and analysts will be held in New York City. In addition, it will be
webcast live and available on the Arrowhead website. We will provide more
information about the event as the date approaches. We are also happy to
announce that reports from the chimp study will be presented at AASLD in
November."


我们认为,一个分析师日的格式将使我们能够提供更
我们正在学习,如果我们只是提供了比前全面概述
线导致的新闻稿。一些我们所学是相当令人吃惊
我们和我们的顾问。我们相信,我们的工作是一个真正的提前为
HBV领域,帮助我们推动我们前进的程序。我们已经列队面板
国际专家来谈谈乙肝病毒领域以及如何我们的新的数据可
挑战一些被广泛接受的理论。这些小组成员包括罗伯特·吉什博士,
斯蒂芬博士Locarnini,和罗伯特·兰福德博士。本次现场活动的机构
投资者和分析师将在纽约市举行。此外,这将是
网络直播和可用的箭头网站上。我们将提供更多
有关事件的最新方法的信息。我们也很高兴
宣布从黑猩猩的研究报告将在AASLD在提交
十一月。

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Dr Stephen Locarnini - 一个非常著名的澳大利亚HBV科学家
Dr Robert Gish - 一个非常著名的美国HBV医生,乙型肝炎基金会顾问
Dr Robert Lanford - 他做了GS9620黑猩猩研究.

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我也很是有点怀疑。我感觉他们还没在人身上找到功能性治愈。但是也有希望
设计了2001到2008不同的实验。

具体还要看黑猩猩的数据,只要有黑星星有FC或者接近FC就好。

题外话。这是第一次确定AD日发布黑猩猩数据,何来又推迟一说?

在别的版乱说也就够了,在学术版乱传一气,我是够了。。。不能认真我只能这么跟自己说。

有认真的事讨论你私信我吧。。。

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德克Haussecker(作者)是一个投资者,而不是乙肝病毒专家,他是RNAi专家

Thursday, August 6, 2015
Arrowhead Research Believes ARC520 Ready to Shine

On Tuesday, Arrowhead Research announced further pipeline expansion with ARC-F12 chosen to become its third DPC-based clinical RNAi candidate, this time for the treatment of hereditary angioedema.

Although this could have been used by the company as an opportunity to distract investor attention from the mechanistically riskier lead HBV program for which a much-anticipated Analyst Day is coming up on September 24, Arrowheadd chose to spend most of its earnings call on HBV-targeting ARC520.

To sum it up, the company said that it now believes that it has gathered sufficient insights into HBV biology and ARC520 action that it is ready to take on the functional cure challenge to be tested in a key upcoming phase IIb (multi-dose!) combination study of ARC520 with other HBV-agents, dubbed the MONARC(H) study.

Knockdown at low doses below expectations

To wit, early results from ARC520 in HBV patients late last year has caused much investor angst and anger triggering a couple of 'I-don't-take-reponsbility-for-my-investment-decisions' lawsuits alleging the company of having set expectations too high

Well, they accuse management of 'over-promising', but since when is this illegal anyway; would recommend paying attention to the forward-looking statement safe harbor once in while).  

Accordingly, at 2mg/kg, there was ‘only’ a, albeit rapid and prolonged ~50% knockdown of the HBV surface antigen (HBsAg) following a single dose of ARC520.

This was also below my expectations not only based on the preclinical data, including data from a single chimpanzee in 2013, but also data from its other DPC-based development programs in what should otherwise be highly predictive monkey models.

Hepatitis e-antigen coming into focus

HBV biology is complex, and one of the attractions of an RNAi approach for HBV is that it can target the expression of not just one gene, but all of the gene products.  This raises the hope that as more recent interferon-nuke combination studies show that HBV might be more vulnerable than previously thought when tackled in the proper sequence and in right combination that a pan-mRNA targeting agent might mess up HBV enough so that an effective T-cell response can be mounted against it.

Arrowhead has thus started to emphasize that it is not just targeting immune suppressive HBsAg, but also other HBV gene products.  At the same time, the clinical development program has strongly shifted from e-antigen negative chronic HBV patients in the single-dose Hong Kong study (Heparc 2002 1-4mg/kg) to e-antigen positive HBV patients in the imminent multi-dose studies in the US, Europe, and Asia.

Since you would expect single-dose data in e-antigen positive patients to be desirable before multi-dose studies from a regulatory/safety and scientific point-of-view, it is my expectation that at least some of the newly added 3 cohorts in the HK 2002 study involve e-antigen positive patients (most likely single-dose).

Is it possible that the e-antigen is playing a more prominent role in immune evasion than previously thought and that the e-antigen positive state of the one chimpanzee (which also did not receive concomitant nukes) facilitated the chimpanzee apparently mount a desired immune response?

E-antigen a natural candidate for being immune suppressive

When considering the natural history of HBV infection, HBeAg stands out as the natural candidate for serving an immune suppressive role.

First of all, unlike HBsAg, HBeAg is not required for HBV replication and spread per se.  In fact, most people lose it during the course of their infection and continued viral replication.  Since immune evasion is the 3rd most important task of a successful virus next to replication and spread, this would be the expected task of HBeAg.

Also remember that the HBV population can be broadly divided into two buckets.  In the first, young (typically Asian) people are infected around birth or early childhood.  It is highly interesting that they are in an immune tolerant state for a number of years, meaning that the virus can replicate to high titers yet is not seen by the immune system.

They also happen to be e-antigen positive during this period.

As they, however, enter adulthood, most develop chronic hepatitis reflected by flares in liver enzymes.  This is also the time when some of them either clear the virus or enter the e-antigen negative state.

This is consistent with e-antigen serving an immune suppressive role, yet when it disappears or it becomes ineffective in serving such a role due to changes in the state of the ageing immune system, it becomes a liability and those viruses without it (e-antigen negative) take over (and HBsAg takes over in serving the main immune suppressive function).

It is interesting to speculate that an agent like ARC520 might be most successful in this young population.

In the Western world meanwhile it is in adulthood that people become infected with HBV.  Although this is a surprisingly understudied area, it is my understanding from the literature that it is only HBeAg positive strains that can establish an infection.  Although the vast majority (~90%) of those exposed to HBV in adulthood go through an acute (some fulminant) hepatitis episode and clear the virus, successful chronic infection persists in ~10%.  Many of these will go on to seroconvert to e-antigen and become e-antigen negative.

The strict requirement for HBeAg in establishing an infection also in adulthood further strongly supports a key immune suppressive role for this protein.

Expectations for Analyst Day and beyond

With the above in mind, let’s speculate what might play out at Analyst Day and beyond.

On September 24, the company wants to present more or less complete data from the Heparc2002 HK study, including the unblinded results from the single-dose 3-4mg/kg cohorts and from 2 if not 3 of the newly added cohorts (note: one cohort is blinded so I am not sure whether there is enough time to gather the results for this event- hence two cohorts that are open-label).

As indicated above, I expect the new cohorts to involve e-antigen positive patients and to be single-dose.

For the 3-4mg/kg cohort, my hope is that they will reach an HBsAg knockdown of around 80%.  Keep in mind, this is single-dose.

The much more important data, however, should come from the yearlong study in 8 chimpanzees the existence of which the company disclosed a quarter ago.  Arrowhead Research is now saying that it has learned a lot from these to guide them in their crucial upcoming combination studies.

While I hate to set overly ambitious expectations for the chimpanzee results, also in light of the fact that functional cures (=s-antigen negative/seroconversion) are known to often occur long after interferon treatment (the only agent known to facilitate meaningful functional cure rates), it is my hope that they provide strong indications as to which treatment strategy, including combinations (nukes, interferons) e-antigen positive/negative state, immune tolerant/silent/active, will lead to functional cures.

It is worth keeping in mind that with 8 chimpanzees this is an ambitious task considering the potentially many variables, but when do you get the chance to test your drug in 8 chimpanzees anyway?

The tremendous upside, of course, is that if these studies indeed provide a clear path forward, the ‘theory risk’ of the ARC520 program will have been reduced tremendously given that HBV infection is essentially the same in chimpanzees and humans.

The final validation would then come from the multi-dose MONARC(H) study which should get underway in early 2016.  Here, Arrowhead Research will test ARC520 (taking foot off immune brake) in combination with likely first either nukes or (immune booster) interferon.  Arrowhead has also noted in the conference call that it has given ‘a lot of thought’ to combining ARC520 with other, likely investigational agents, but that given the early-stage nature of those, these might be few and far between.

The kicker is that these studies are open-label and flexible in their design so that the company can learn and adjust in real-time just as Pharmasset had done in developing fabled HCV blockbuster Sovaldi.

From a stock perspective, Arrowhead Research might be a year or so away from where comparable companies in the HCV space before (Vertex, Pharmasset) had been valued considerably higher before.


Disclosure: long ARWR. Here's why.

Market cap: $400M,

Growing pipeline (ARC520, ARC-AAT, ARC-F12)

RNAi delivery platform with broadest potential

Strong platform technology safety profile, including 6-9 month rat/monkey

Strong knockdown efficacy in non-human primates and apparently humans (à AAT)

Strong platform IP, including assets from Roche, Novartis, and others (àlow royalty
payments)

HBV and AAT first-mover (IP, including regarding combinations, and natural combo partner).

Hungry and capable management and scientific teams.


Invest at your own risk.
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周四2015年8月6日
箭头研究认为ARC520准备闪耀

周二,箭头研究进一步宣布扩大管道与ARC-F12选择成为其第三DPC为基础的临床候选的RNAi,这次遗传性血管性水肿的治疗。

虽然这可能已被用于该公司为契机,以分散投资者的注意力从机制上风险较高的铅HBV程序,其中一个万众瞩目的分析师日是9月24日即将到来,Arrowheadd选择如何度过最HBV-在其财报电话会议中针对ARC520。

概括起来,该公司表示,它现在认为它已经聚集足够的见解乙肝病毒生物学和ARC520的行动,这是准备采取功能性治愈挑战的关键即将到来的IIb期进行测试(多剂量!) ARC520的组合研究与其他乙肝病毒药物,被称为MONARC(H)的研究。

击倒在低剂量低于预期

要机智,从早期的ARC520结果乙肝患者去年年底已经引起了很多投资者的焦虑和愤怒引发了几个“我 - 不要通吃reponsbility换我的投资,决定”的诉讼,指控该公司具有集期望值过高

那么,他们指责“过度看好”的管理,但由于当反正这是非法的;建议在同时注意前瞻性陈述避风港一次)。

因此,在为2mg / kg时,出现了“仅”一,尽管HBV表面抗原(HBsAg)以下ARC520单剂量的快速和长期的〜50%击倒。

这也低于我的预期不仅是基于临床前数据,包括在2013年从单一的黑猩猩的数据,而且在什么原本应该是高度预测模型猴从其他DPC发展方案的数据。

乙型肝炎e抗原成为焦点

HBV的生物学是复杂的,并且对的RNA干扰方法的HBV景点之一是它可以针对不只是一个基因的表达,但所有的基因产物。这就提出了一个希望,因为最近的干扰素结合核弹研究表明,乙肝病毒可能是当一个泛基因靶向代理可能搞砸了HBV足以使一个有效的T在正确的顺序和正确的组合解决比以前认为的更加脆弱胰岛β细胞的反应可以安装反对。

箭头就此开始强调,它不只是针对免疫抑制的HBsAg,而且其他的HBV基因产物。与此同时,临床开发计划已经从强e抗原阴性的慢性乙肝患者在转移单剂量香港研究(Heparc 2002 1-4mg /公斤),以e抗原阳性乙肝患者在即将多剂量研究在美国,欧洲和亚洲。

因为你会期望在e抗原阳性患者单剂量的数据是从视点调节/安全和科学的多剂量研究之前可取的,这是我的期望,至少有一些新加入的3同伙2002年香港的研究涉及到e抗原阳性患者(最有可能的单剂量)。

是否有可能在e抗原是打在免疫逃避更突出的作用比以前认为的那一个黑猩猩的e抗原阳性的状态(其中还没有收到伴随核武器)促进了黑猩猩显然安装所需的免疫反应?

e抗原为是免疫抑制一个自然的候选

当考虑HBV感染的自然史,大三阳脱颖而出,成为天然的候选服务的免疫抑制的作用。

首先,不像的HBsAg,HBeAg的不需要HBV复制和传播本身。事实上,大多数人的感染和病毒的不断复制的过程中失去它。由于免疫逃避是复制和传播旁边一个成功的病毒本周最重要的任务,这将是大三阳的预期任务。

还记得那乙肝人群大致可分为两个水桶。在第一阶段,年轻的(通常是亚洲)人感染出生时或儿童早期周围。这是非常有趣的是,它们在免疫耐受状态的数年,这意味着该病毒可以复制到高滴度还是没有看到由免疫系统。

他们也正好是e抗原,在此期间积极。

因为他们,但是,进入成年,大部分发展成慢性肝炎在肝酶耀斑体现。这也是当他们中的一些或者清除病毒或者进入e抗原阴性状态的时间。

这是符合e抗原服务的免疫抑制的作用,然而,当它消失或变得无效服务这样的角色变化引起的老化免疫系统的状态时,它变成负担和这些病毒没有它(电子抗原阴性)接管(与HBsAg接管在服务的主要免疫抑制功能)。

有趣的是猜测,像ARC520的代理可能是最成功的在这个年轻的群体。

在西方世界,同时它是在成年的人感染乙肝病毒。虽然这是一个令人惊讶的充分研究区域,它是从文献,这是唯一的HBeAg阳性菌株可建立一个感染我的理解。虽然这些在成年期暴露于乙肝病毒的绝大多数(〜90%),通过一种急性(暴发型一些)肝炎发作和清除病毒,成功的慢性感染坚持〜10%。许多这些将前往血清转化为e抗原,成为e抗原阴性。

在成年后建立感染也严格要求大三阳进一步强烈支持这种蛋白质的主要免疫抑制的作用。

预期分析师日及以后

随着上述考虑,我们推测可能是什么发挥出在分析师日及以后。

9月24日,该公司希望从目前的Heparc2002香港研究或多或少完整的数据,包括从单剂量的非盲结果3-4mg / kg的同伙,并从2,如果新加入的同伙不是3(注:一种队列被蒙蔽,所以我不知道是否有足够的时间来收集结果该事件 - 因此两个队列打开的标签)。

正如上面所指出的,我希望新的同伙涉及e抗原阳性患者,并为单剂量。

为3-4mg / kg群组,我的希望是,他们将达到约80%的乙肝表面抗原击倒。请记住,这是单剂量。

在更为重要的数据,但是,应该来自为期一年的研究中黑猩猩8其中公司披露季度前的存在。现在箭头研究是说,它已经学会了很多从这些来指导他们在即将到来的关键组合研究。

虽然我讨厌设置过于雄心勃勃期望黑猩猩的结果,也是在光的事实,即功能性治愈(= S-抗原阴性/血清转换)是已知的干扰素治疗(称为促进有意义的功能治愈的唯一代理后,经常出现长率),这是我的希望,他们提供了强有力的迹象表明哪个治疗策略,包括组合(核武器,干扰素)e抗原阳性/阴性状态,免疫耐受/静音/主动,会导致功能治愈。

这是值得铭记,与8黑猩猩,这是一个雄心勃勃的任务,考虑到潜在的诸多变数,但是当你有机会反正来测试你的药在8黑猩猩?

当然的巨大上攻,是,如果这些研究确实提供了一个清晰的路径前进,所述ARC520程序的“理论风险”将减少大大鉴于HBV感染是基本上在黑猩猩和人类相同。

最终验证然后将来自多剂量MONARC(H)研究,应该进行在2016年年初在这里,箭头研究将测试ARC520(以脚离开刹车免疫)联合可能首先无论是核武器或(免疫助推器)干扰素。箭头还注意到在电话会议中,它已经给'了不少心思“来ARC520与其他可能的研究性药物结合,但鉴于这些早期阶段的性质,这可能是寥寥可数。

最厉害的是,这些研究是开放性和灵活的设计,使公司可以学习和调整实时就像Pharmasset开发传说中HCV大片Sovaldi做了。

从股票的角度来看,箭头研究可能是一年左右的车程从那里可比公司(顶点,Pharmasset)前HCV空间已被估价相当高了。


披露:长ARWR。这里的原因。

市值:4亿美元,

越来越多的管道(ARC520,ARC-AAT,ARC-F12)

RNA干扰交付平台与广泛的潜力

强大的平台技术的安全性,其中包括6-9个月的大鼠/猴

在非人灵长类强击倒效力和明显人类(单AAT)

强大的平台IP,包括罗氏,诺华公司的资产,和其他人(àlow版税
金)

HBV和AAT先发(IP,包括有关的组合,和自然组合的合作伙伴)。

饥饿和精干的管理和科学的团队。


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您觉得这算好消息还是坏消息?  我看不太懂

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德克推测arc520可能用于治疗大三阳患者

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520不是作用于基因沉默吗?  为什么会区分大三阳和小三阳?
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