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楼主是否能说说目前对此看法?还能进行吗?
我不是专家,无法回答.

因为在美国一期实验已经通过了,哪怕无效也可以理解,怎么这么大副作用??
在他们的癌症临床试验, Bell's Palsy 副作用, 是已知的,可逆转. 停止是Tetralogic决定

难道剂量的问题? 似乎是.

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From Medhelp:

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In clinical trials, birinapant has been associated with the onset of cranial nerve palsies, meaning a weakness or paralysis of the areas served by the affected cranial nerve. Across the entirety of the clinical program to date, there have been 18 cases of cranial nerve palsy, of which all but two have been mild to moderate in severity. These events have been transient and responsive to therapy. Some subjects who reported a cranial nerve palsy elected to continue birinapant treatment, and none had a recurrent event of cranial nerve palsy.

The majority of events have affected the VII cranial nerve and caused a Bell’s palsy, i.e., a weakness affecting one side of the face. All but one case of Bell’s palsy has occurred in subjects receiving a weekly cumulative dose of birinapant of 22mg/m2 or higher. However, one event was reported in a subject receiving a cumulative dose of 4.2mg/m2. The onset of Bell’s palsy typically occurs after the third dose of birinapant and is preceded by a prodromal syndrome of headache, ear or eye pain. Thus, we believe it may be possible to mitigate the onset of the cranial nerve palsy by intervening with either non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs ( NSAIDs) or corticosteroids at the time of the prodromal syndrome and deferring the next dose of birinapant. This procedure is being implemented in all of the clinical programs.

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To: 80percenthidebrain
it all depends if it can be recovered easily, prevented, controlled

if we consider hcc treatment you can bear sides like that if the other choice is death....if it is to clear an inactive hbv it must be a reversible side

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The Bell's palsy caused by BIRINAPANT is not the same as regular spontaneous Bell's palsy. It will typically disappear fast upon discontinuation of the drug. Methyl cobalamin injections will speed up recovery and might possibly have preventative effects. However i doubt that the situation is handled this way.
We do not know at which dose level and what frequency this problem occurred. One can only hope that the trial will continue after it has cleared up.

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thanks man !! the part hope in your nickname is well deserved, study as well btw

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Good to know.  This initially worried me as I do know someone that got Bell's out of the blue and is still completely debilitated for over 2 years now, without much improvement and tons of therapy.  

Do you think they will restart the trial if others want to go forward, or do you think the FDA will shut it down?  You are very knowledgeable and I am very new to the background of how trials function.  I was really hoping for great news from this one, as I know we all were.  Let's just hope it's not a complete wash.  

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it is hard to predict how the fda will react. the recovery process from the palsy and speed will also determine that. it should only take 2 weeks to recover, but i dont know if they will use methylcobalamine to speed up recovery.

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从Medhelp:

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在临床试验中,birinapant已与颅神经麻痹的发病相关联,意味着受影响脑神经供应的区域的虚弱或瘫痪。整个临床计划迄今为止的全部,已经有18例颅神经麻痹,其中除了两个已经轻度至中度的。这些事件发生短暂以及响应于治疗。谁报告了颅神经麻痹一些受试者选择继续治疗birinapant,并且什么都没有颅神经麻痹的一个经常性的事件。

大多数事件影响了第七脑神经造成脸部的贝尔氏麻痹,即一个弱点影响一侧。所有,但一个案件贝尔氏麻痹的发生在受试者接受22mg /平方米以上的birinapant的每周累积剂量。然而,一个事件报告中的受试者接受4.2mg /平方米的累积剂量。贝尔氏麻痹的发作通常发生birinapant第三剂量后前有头痛,耳部或眼痛前驱综合征。因此,我们认为有可能通过与任一非甾体抗炎药(NSAID)或皮质类固醇居间在前驱综合征的时间和延迟birinapant的下一剂量以减轻脑神经麻痹的发作。这个过程中的所有临床项目正在实施。

http://ir.tetralogicpharma.com/s ... 370-15-186&cik=

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要:80percenthidebrain
这一切都取决于它是否可以很容易地恢复,防可控

如果我们考虑肝癌的治疗,你能忍受像两侧,如果另一个选择是死....如果是清除非活动性HBV它必须是一个可逆的一面

studyforhope

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贝尔氏麻痹引起BIRINAPANT是不一样的经常自发贝尔氏麻痹。它通常会在停药消失快。甲钴胺注射液将加快复苏,并有可能会具有预防作用。但是我怀疑,这种情况是这样处理的。
我们不知道发生了此问题,在其中的剂量水平和什么频率。人们只能希望,审判将继续后,已清理。

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感谢的人!部分希望寄托在你的昵称是当之无愧的,研究,以及BTW

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要:studyforhope
好知道。这最初担心我,因为我知道,得到了贝尔的蓝色,并且仍然是完全超过2年,现在有人衰弱,没有太多的改进和吨治疗。

你认为他们会重新启动审判,如果别人想往前走,还是你认为FDA将它关闭?你很懂行,我很新的审判如何发挥作用的背景。我真的很希望天大的好消息来自这一块,因为我知道我们所有的人都。我们只是希望它不是一个完整的清洗。

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要:twinboys1girl4me
这是很难预测的FDA将如何反应。从麻痹和速度的恢复过程也将确定。它应该只需要2周才能恢复,但我不知道他们是否会使用甲基维生素,以加快恢复。

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什么也不说了、就这样吧、没希望了

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Bell's Palsy 到底是个什么副作用?sw你说可逆转、后来你贴的对话中有说道有人2年都没好

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查了、是面瘫~~~好吧~~~这个副作用还真是、蛮扯的、特别对于女hbver

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2年都没好 仔细阅读! 2年都没好是自发的 Bell's Palsy, 不是Birinapant造成的.

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这是2期吗?

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2年都没好 仔细阅读! 2年都没好是自发的 Bell's Palsy, 不是Birinapant造成的. ...

那为何停止试验了、难道有比面瘫更严重的问题出现?已有的数据会公布吗?
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