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标题: 我们反对什么样的干细胞移植手术&常见误解辨析 [打印本页]

作者: liver411    时间: 2010-6-21 15:19     标题: 我们反对什么样的干细胞移植手术&常见误解辨析

虽然这个文章是基于糖尿病干细胞移植问题,但其它干细胞移植亦同样道理

进入21世纪以来,干细胞移植手术治疗糖尿病的试验在国际上纷纷展开,
干细胞相关的研究,已成为研究治愈糖尿病的一个主流方向。
于此同时,一些骗子也借着这股热潮蠢蠢欲动。

对于干细胞新技术,我们热烈欢迎。
对于骗子们的行为,我们坚决声讨。


我们发现,当声讨一些医院对患者严重不负责任的行为时,遇到了很多病友的不理解,
比如认为我们是“要一棒子打死新技术”,甚至怀疑“反对去做手术的人不是糖尿病人”。
特此澄清一些常见误解:

1. 反对大家去某些国内小医院做干细胞手术,就是一棒子打死新技术么?
——不是。
干细胞研究还处于探索和发展之中,新技术是值得鼓励的。
我们反对的并不是这项新技术,
而是以研究新技术为名,欺骗患者的行为。欺骗患者的行为主要有三方面:
(1)向患者隐瞒手术潜在的风险:
    如骨质疏松免疫系统遭到不可逆转的破坏造血功能减退诱发肿瘤癌症等。这些医院都是知道的,但绝对不会告诉患者。
(2) 对人的生命严重不负责任:
    国内的大多医疗机构都没有完成动物试验,很多应该先在动物身上试验的东西,直接拿到人身上来试。
(3) 向全社会撒谎:
    明明人体试验没有成功,告诉媒体和全国人民说,"100%治愈"。

总结:我们欢迎新技术,等待新技术的成熟,但不能容忍欺骗的行为,靠打着新技术的幌子骗人钱财,欺世盗名。

2. 国内开始临床试验啦!肯定是动物试验已经做好了,难道不是吗?
——不是。
目前国内大部分干细胞移植临床试验,都没有经过严格充分的动物试验。
原因是什么?——“小白鼠”比人贵!
一只适合做试验的“小白鼠”,比如"基因工程大鼠",天生有糖尿病的,成本要上千美元。而且中国目前造不出,要从美国进口,那么还需要打通海关,检疫,卫生等等环节。一般的小医院,就算做一组12只小白鼠的超小规模动物试验,也少说要几十万人民币,小医院出得起么?
而用人做,每人能赚几万块钱,各个都签了自愿合同——当然,是在被隐瞒了实情的前提下。

总结:直接做人体试验,赚钱;严格按照动物试验来做,赔钱。所以国内一些医疗机构直接用人做试验。


3. 活人去做人体试验,比动物试验的效果好,能为促进医学发展做些贡献。不是么
——完全错误!
以现在国内的经验和手术水平来说,干细胞研究和试验只应该停留在动物身上。
在这个阶段,用“小白鼠”做试验,效果远远比人好:
“小白鼠”代谢快,寿命短,可以设立各个对照组,按统一的方法标准饲养,观察效果。
而人不行,用人做完试验,有什么副作用,不良反应,严重后果,可能要5-10年才能显现。更不必说无法设立对照组,效果不好评估的问题。

那么用人做试验有什么优势呢?——便于某些人用来吹牛!
做完3个月药量减了,就宣布手术成功。——试问,能持续几个月?有没有副作用?药量减了和在医院的固定饮食,在医院指导下的运动是否有关系?都说不清楚。效果远远没有用“小白鼠”做对照组来得直接。

总结:就目前某些小医院所做的试验的水平来说,用活人做试验的效果比老鼠差远了。这些都是噱头而已。归根结底,原因还是用人做能赚钱,吸引眼球,还不用承担责任。

推荐几篇帖子参考:
1. 干细胞治糖尿病的进展如何 by 平常心
http://bbs.tnbz.com/thread-106217-1-1.html
2. 干细胞移植后,,,, by 飘零的雪
http://bbs.tnbz.com/viewthread.php?tid=106705
3. Nature头条:质疑中国干细胞安全性
http://bbs.tnbz.com/viewthread.php?tid=105544


然后看看正规做治愈1型糖尿病干细胞研究的:
1. Harvard:
http://www2.massgeneral.org/diabetes/faculty_faustman.htm
2. Chicago:
http://www.citisletstudy.org/obh.html


Credit: http://bbs.tnbz.com/space-uid-2497.html
作者: liver411    时间: 2010-6-21 15:21

Experimental Stem Cell Therapy for Cirrhosis

December 21, 2004

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Cirrhosis is still officially considered an irreversible condition. Some experiments have shown natural substances like milk thistle (especially Maximum Milk Thistle) can slow or possibly even reverse fibrosis (the process that leads to cirrhosis).

Now, scientists are utilizing stem cells to repair damaged livers. This appears to be regardless of the cause of cirrhosis (alcoholic induced hepatitis or viral hepatitis).

These are the kinds of experiments that offer real hope to people with serious liver concerns.

Reading between the lines in the report from the medical journal "Hepatology" gives us some interesting data. One fact that stands out is that 25 million Americans (one in ten) have liver related diseases---making this the seventh leading cause of death.

Another fact stated is that 10,000 Hepatitis C patients die due to cirrhosis each year, and another 5,000 from chronic Hepatitis B.

Clearly, it is important to protect and support your liver. While a small minority of Hepatitis C patients will progress to end stage liver disease (just 20 to 30% according to the Centers for Disease Control), this is a very serious life-threatening condition for those most negatively affected.

A pioneering stem cell therapy designed to heal otherwise irreversible liver damage has started trials in Japan. A similar trial on people with cirrhosis is about to start in London, UK.

The need for new treatments is urgent. Cirrhosis kills 27,000 Americans each year, and one in 10 of the population - 25 million Americans - have liver-related diseases making it the seventh most common cause of death. For now, the only real hope for patients who suffer severe liver damage through heavy drinking or viral infections is a liver transplant from a matched donor. But waiting lists for livers are growing.

In the U.S., 18,500 patients await transplants. In the UK, the waiting list has more than doubled between 1994 and 2003, from 101 to 239, although around 600 people a year receive a transplant.

Antiviral drugs tackle viral-related cirrhosis if given in time, but sometimes the damage is too advanced, resulting in up to 10,000 cirrhosis deaths from hepatitis C in the US, and 5000 deaths from hepatitis B.

Younger drinkers

The situation is just as dire in the UK, where cirrhosis cases are increasing, according to Alison Rogers, chief executive of the British Liver Trust. Alcohol-related cirrhosis accounts for around half of cases.

"People are drinking more, and younger than they used to, and women are drinking more," says Rogers. Extrapolating from a recent, unpublished study of hepatitis C prevalence in Southampton, Rogers says that as many as 750,000 drug users in the UK could be harbouring the virus.

The pioneering Japanese trial builds on successful experiments with mice. "Our results showed that even if chronic liver injury exists, transplantation of bone marrow stem cells can reverse this," says Isao Sakaida of Yamaguchi University in western Japan, head of the team that developed the new procedure. He says it is too soon to know if people in the trial are responding to the treatment.

For their mouse experiments, Sakaida and his team damaged the livers of the animals by injecting carbon tetrachloride, to produce a condition called liver fibrosis in which interconnected strands and patches of damaged and dead tissue criss-cross the organ. Fibrosis eventually develops into cirrhosis when nodules of cells form at the junctions of the fibrous strands.

After four weeks, Sakaida took bone marrow cells from donor mice that had a jellyfish gene inserted to make their cells glow green. He then injected the cells into the tail veins of half the mice with damaged livers. Sakaida was able to track where the glowing cells ended up in the liver-damaged mice. In the fifth and eighth weeks of the experiment he found the cells had migrated en masse to the liver.

"Ready to go"

Following the infusion of bone marrow cells, the proportion of fibrous tissue in the liver shrank from an average of nearly 5.4% in the fifth week to less than 4.2% three weeks later. Mice in a control group given only saline solution showed no such change.

The team were able to show that bone marrow cells reaching the liver changed into liver cells and made large amounts of an enzyme called matrix-metalloproteinase-9 (MMP-9), which may play a role in dissolving fibrotic tissue.

For the trials on people, Sakaida's team favours injecting bone marrow stem cells extracted from the patients themselves to avoid problems of rejection of donor cells. At Hammersmith Hospital in London, a team headed by Nagy Habib claims to be "ready to go" with a similar trial. The London team plans to concentrate stem cells obtained from the patients' bone marrow and inject them into the liver through the hepatic portal vein.

Both techniques risk quite serious side effects. Some bone marrow cells, for example, might form scar tissue, making the cirrhosis worse. But Habib says the Japanese work in mice indicates that this is unlikely.

Further question marks arise from an almost identical study published last year in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (vol 100, p 11850) by Inder Verma and Yoshiyuki Kanazawa of the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, California, US. They found hardly any evidence of healed liver tissue after they infused bone marrow cells, and concluded that "bone-marrow derived cells cannot generally lead to a cure for liver damage".

Journal reference: Hepatology (vol 40, p 1304)

Posted by Ralph at December 21, 2004 2:20 PM

作者: liver411    时间: 2010-6-21 15:27

Recent advances in liver stem cell therapy

Current Opinion in Gastroenterology:
POST AUTHOR CORRECTIONS, 20 May 2010
doi: 10.1097/MOG.0b013e32833a6bec
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Recent advances in liver stem cell therapy
Kisseleva, Tatiana; Gigante, Elia; Brenner, David A
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Abstract

Purpose of review: Patients with liver cirrhosis often require liver transplantation, which remains the only effective treatment of the end-stage cirrhosis. Here we briefly summarize the current concepts in treatment of liver diseases based on the transplantation of intrahepatic liver cells, capable of repopulating the injured liver. These cells include hepatocytes, oval cells (bipotential intrahepatic progenitor cells), bone marrow hematopoietic and mesenchymal stem cells, and induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells.

Recent findings: Although liver transplantation remains the only conventional treatment, liver cell transplantation is an experimental procedure which has been successfully used in clinical trials in patients with acute liver failure, chronic liver disease with end-stage cirrhosis. Extraordinary progress has been made in the field of hepatic progenitors and iPS. Liver precursor cells (oval cells) are recognized as bipotential precursor cells in the damaged liver. They can rapidly proliferate, change their cellular composition, and differentiate into hepatocytes and cholangiocytes to compensate for the cellular loss and maintain liver homeostasis in animal models of liver injury. Similarly, iPS are somatic cells obtained from patients and differentiated into hepatocytes in vitro. Future studies of iPS are designed to develop of specific conditions to expand and in vitro differentiate somatic cells into functionally mature liver cells.

Summary: The current review defines and discusses different populations of hepatic cells which can be potentially used for liver cell transplantation to advance the therapy of hepatic cirrhosis.

(C) 2010 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.




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